Arguments

There are five visitors 1) from Jakarta, Jakarta Raya searching for “fake antiques Indonesia”. 2) From  NewZealand searching for “nyonya home wares Singapore cheap sales. 3) From Singapore searching for “vase collectors dealers Singapore”. 4) From Round lake Illinois, U.S.A. searching for “nyonya porcelain ware”.  5) From Mentakab, Pahang searching for “chinese porcelain vase shop in cheras”.  Find out for yourselves is the best solution and no use being a frog under the nutshell.

All authentication must have details in the findings so that to minimize errors or mistakes. Collectors who wants to bulldoze their way by saying “yours are fakes, mine are genuine” will not be successful. I am sure that collectors should know GENUINES, BANDUNG COPIES OR FAKES AND JINGDEZHEN COPIES OR FAKES and not just pluck the facts or details from the air to confirm genuineness.

My friend and I were at the museum and there was an authentication session and two men brought one item each for authentication. One is a Blue and white Mei ping vase and the other is a Blue and white pear vase and from far I was able to tell that the two items were copies and my judgement was same as the experts from Peoples’ Republic of China. When the expert told them the items were copies, the two men raise their voices against the Chinese expert and the expert’s student started taking photos of the items. I then told my friend that there is no need for them to raise their voices. If I were to be the expert, I would ask them to lay down the characteristics of genuineness. There was no characteristic on the two items to tell that is genuine. It was then when we were at the museum canteen that I came to know about the argument through the expert’s student. The expert’s student told us that they claim that the items are from their grandparents. I then cracked a joke by saying that the items was from the Yuan dynasty grandparents time or which generation. The expert’s student who was then seated at the same table having his lunch felt more relax by my joke and I further added that such grandfather and grandmother stories don’t work and I told him I could easily furnish him with the characteristics on the genuine piece and expert’s student then told us that the two men tells stories but the two items tells different stories and the three of us had a lot of fun. I then told my friend that there is no need to raise voices as to genuine or fakes.

I realized that my slogan “ALL ARTEFACTS ARE FAKES UNLESS AND UNTIL PROVEN GENUINE” work well.

By now year 2015 has ended and most of the characteristics on genuine one are known so that Bandung copies and Jing dezhen copies will not be sold as genuine.

      

Mr Bulldozer

A visitor from Kuala Lumpur searching for “where to buy antique original ceramic in Malaysia”. The answer is I don’t know. It has been all along that I have been trying to throw away rubbish in collecting Antique Chinese call it whatever you like “ porcelain or ceramic “  due to genuine or fakes. Collectors may have kept something good but when they meet the expert/s who tell them that they are fakes that is the problem. A Chinese newspaper claimed that experts wrongly broke thirty items out of the three hundred items that were produced for authentication due to wrong judgement. I have been telling people not to become a collector and this was mentioned in my blog. Most of them trusted the experts who are makers from the present factories. Many would want to base on scientific tests. This case that happened in Seattle was about a Chinese antique dealer has some items scientifically tested in Hong Kong to be genuine before they were sent over to Seattle for sale and scientific tests done in Seattle were fakes. I then took the trouble to find out more about scientific tests. If ten different machines made in ten different countries with ten different calibration then which country made machine is the most reliable. I made my round and I got the facts which answered to what I wanted to know. Museums are institutions for studies and I felt very bored because no one can produce or give me answers to the authenticity on ANTIQUE CHINESE CERAMIC. I was at a museum one weekend and a group of three was there for the same event, one of whom knows me is an arrogant man and he had even visited my place when large portion of my collection was in Malaysia. I then made my rounds and came up. Right in front two of his friends and myself, he uses words and not facts to bulldoze through and I then asked why do you want to collect antique Chinese Porcelain. The three of them stared, after my explanation I also brought up Chinese Teapot and further explain, two of his friends quickly introduced themselves by giving me their name cards and on the spot I told him and his friends that he has no brains but only want to bulldoze his way because he is somebody known in Malaysia now known as “Mr. Bulldozer”. When I meet such problem with collectors, I will just hint and walk away laughing.

The way I see is that Malaysia is not a good place for selling antiques and there are not many knowledgeable collectors and at the same time collectors wants to bulldoze  their way to authenticate their items by guessing and not facts. The way they authenticate is 1)well stained 2)well corroded which you take a stone from the roadside back to the house looks better. I had in fact stated that porcelain items are more important to the users than the makers because makers can produce porcelain items to any size and shape. Users in earlier years have to use porcelain items with care and the rich people can afford them. Call them what you like Pua Nguar(told by one Mr. Goh that there is no Nyonya ware in the 60’s and a known scholar in Malaysia), Nyonya ware, Straits Chinese Porcelain are one good example in a way studies in Chinese Porcelain. Why are Baba and Nyonya families keeping porcelain crockery wares and not the makers because they can produce the quantity they wanted. Pua Nguar or Nyonya ware, or Straits Chinese Porcelain became important because of its beauty and later Bandung copies (well known for copies started from the late 60’s) and Jing dezhen continued production. There is a lady who tells me the difference between the old and new nyonya ware but not on “Bandung copies”

Collectors should know better because any artefacts told by them to be old are always with them and they have the chance to study and by bringing to expert will only allow short time for studies and also that the expert may not have come across such artefacts. Experts may say what they like including imitations can be made exactly the same as originals which I have recorded from a talk by an internationally recognized expert. When such cheating cases can be easily made up then why be a collector or expert.  Being a collector is no body important but only a fool and being laugh at by others. Such practices have caused a lot of laughter and when I try sharing with them the facts, they tend to disagree because RONNIE NG IS THE SON OF NG TING KAU, THE OLD CROOK THAT SELLS FAKE ANTIQUES AT OLD KLANG ROAD and now I am happy for them to blacklist me and they are aware the danger in collection lies with the owner.